Hoboken council passes $20 million parks ordinance
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HOBOKEN - The administration of Mayor Dawn Zimmer now has $20 million approved by the City Council to acquire park space throughout the city of Hoboken.

The City Council voted unanimously to approve bonding from the Open Space Trust Fund for future park acquisitions on Wednesday night.

On March 2, the council voted 5-4 to pass the bonding ordinance, and on Wednesday night, all of the council members agreed to vote "yes" on the same ordinance.

Members who voted no on first reading emphasized on Wednesday that they were not against parks, but said they hoped the specific locations would be available, and that the issue shuld have first been discussed in sub-committee. They said they changed their votes to a yes on second reading after more discussion with Zimmer.

Zimmer has said nothing is different on the ordinance from the first reading.

Now that the money is approved, the administration now has the opportunity to negotiate for park space throughout the city. Zimmer has said a focus of the new park space would be on the city's western side, and provided council members with potential, general areas for park acquisition.

Recently, all of the council candidates backed by Zimmer also came out in support of the parks plan. The issue has been particularly heated because of the six ward elections scheduled for May 10, with all sides trying to speak out for more open space, a popular talking point among candidates.

Although the bond doesn't allow for the purchase of a specific park, the mayor can negotiate for a space, knowing how much money is available. However, she still needs to return to the council to ask permission for a purchase once specific sites are identified.

For much more on the council meeting, stay with HudsonReporter.com and pick up a copy of The Hoboken Reporter this weekend. - Ray Smith

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22citizen
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March 18, 2011
I said this wasn't the ideal place to post. However, the issues around the waste (carbon footprint) of large fulltime empty buses circling our town does have a "green" aspect to it, not unlike the park issue (trees give off oxygen).

Really, your snarkiness does none of your friends a service.

I actually don't have an agenda and my allegiance would be to the Mayor. I believe in a democracy where people can air constructive thoughts however.
DancingRudy
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March 18, 2011
Why would you assume that because someone advocates for park space they would agree with you on unrelated transportation issues? And with all due respect, your explanation that you've been desperately looking for a place to say this is not particularly convincing, at least not to me. by the way - I was wondering who you thought would win the ncaa tournament this year. I wish all those families who want parks would weigh in on that too since after all, some of their children might play ball.
22citizen
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March 17, 2011
And, I guess I'm so impressed with the effectiveness and efficiency of the parks supporters; I wish they'd weigh in on some of the transit issues, which I'm not sure we're handling that sensibly, ironically, even from a green standpoint. I just want to make sure the real costs are accurately evaluated.

Thank you.
22citizen
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March 17, 2011
I'm not trying to hijack any thread. I've been thinking this for some time and I don't see anywhere to post it.

I am no fan of the Russos. I do think I should be able to make critical comments without you assuming that. It seems so foolish, as if you guys (meaning Zimmer and team) are stooping to their (very low, I agree) level.

Let's keep the discourse civil and non partisan as far as possible. That said, I don't get the Hop at all. It strikes me as appalling, frankly, that these large empty buses circle our city all day long. Maybe someone can rally behind them and really use them. If not, I'd suggest that they're very wasteful.
DancingRudy
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March 17, 2011
Fascinating attempt at hijacking a thread to discuss Mike Russo's favorite target - Ian Saks. I suppose we could transition to the criminal charges against Mr. Saks predecessor John Corea for stealing almost $1 million of quarters and the Russo family's relationship with Mr. Corea, but that too would have nothing to do with parks.

The good news is that Mrs. Mason's poll, which showed strong public support for the bond and reportedly had the mayor with an approval rating some 30 points higher than Mrs. Mason's (with an even bigger gap in the 2nd ward) convinced Russo, Giacchi, Castellano and Occhipinti to reverse course and do the right thing in hopes of saving their political skins. The right thing is the right thing even if done for the wrong reasons so we should be grateful for their flip flop. The bad news is that if these guys are reelected they'll spend the next 4 years doing the wrong things.
22citizen
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March 17, 2011
further to my comment below (I know it's not the ideal place to post on this issue, but I don't see another more appropriate immediate spot)--has anyone really run the figures on corner cars, comparing them to zipcar which has worked wonderfully for many years? I worry while Mr. Sacs' resume of achieved initiatives is ballooning, some of these efforts may not be in our best interest.
22citizen
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March 17, 2011
I support this and think it's wonderful so many parents have pushed so hard. I'd be curious what their opinion is of the hop buses (three?), which seem sort of counterproductive to me (wasteful not only of money, but of energy--they're large and always empty as far as I can see). If the caregivers and children would embrace them as a mode of transport, maybe they make sense. Otherwise I think the elderly/disabled bus is all that's needed.

I admire Mr. Sacs but I do think people need to look closely at some of the things he's embracing (a technology system for the hpa that we'll be forced to pay a firm for forever for maintaining for us, once they've set it up for us; a taxi organization system on the internet (if that's even correct; another confusing project); real gps time for the hop which so far no one seems interested in period, with or without a schedule.) Could we see an accurate log of how many passengers have taken the Hop? Again, I applaud Mr. Sacs' initiatives, but someone needs to vet him carefully on the bottom lines of these projects. (His career blossoms with initiatives he gets us to undertake; the actual cost may well not be weighed in the press he garners for these efforts.)
WESTY
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March 17, 2011
The 20 million dollar bonding bonding plan for additional open space from the Zimmer Administration is being paid for by the existing 2 cent Open Space Tax she advocated for and Hoboken voters approved by a large majority.

Hoboken deserves better.
T.Paine
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March 17, 2011
The reversal by the Council majority on the parks vote was a zero-sum decision. Don't be fooled and don't be lazy! The stakes are high and WE NEED YOU! Use your common sense!

"Apathy Will Get You Nowhere" (Pamphlet #5) is available at:

http://commonsensehoboken.blogspot.com/